Asking For An Explanation From God...
I have a problem understanding the opinions of different sides of the Iraq issue and, since no human being can explain either side to me to my satisfaction, I'm asking God to give me the understanding to arrive at the right conclusion. I'll pass it on to you.
First, why do some people want us to just pull our troops out of Iraq and be done with. They know that would constitute a surrender on our part. It would open the door for someone just like Saddam Hussein to come in and take the place over. In a couple of months Iraq would be just like it was when we went in so all that we have done and the deaths of our brave soldiers would be for nothing.
Second, why does the president not put enough troops in Iraq to do a thorough job? He, as well as everyone with at least a half ounce of sense, knows that we really need to completely defeat and dominate Iraq, including replacing the state officials with our people, (president, VP, senators, police force, etc.-on and on) and actually run the country as if it were part of the U S of A. Otherwise, we will wind up doing what the people of the first part want.
OK, God, there it is in a nutshell. A lot of people attempt to give answers to this problem but they only wind up giving opinions and opinions are meaningless in the big picture. I know you can answer this for me and I'll wait to hear from you.
Thanks in advance, Jim.
Later...
posted by Ca... @ 1:42 PM
8 Comments:
That's a pretty crazy statement, that the US should dominate and run Iraq like it was another US state. Is that a reasonable and well thought out statement? Have you thought about it? I don't know but it seems wacky to me.
But have you really thought about this? Is that the Christian way or the Muslim way?
Yes, it is a far out statement, I know. But those people don't know what real freedom without repression is after being ruled by a dictator for all those years. It is impossible to just describe something such as freedom to them when they have no concept of what we are talking about. The way things are going now, what we have done in the name of freedom for the Iraqi people will be for nothing. Nothing will change for them. They'll still be ruled by an Islamic society, forced by their religion to do as they are told by their Imams.
When I was a child I was 'forced' to do many things I didn't want to because I could see no immediate reward for myself. Now I look back and can see that those things were for the best for me and everyone else.
If these people can be 'forced' to learn the concepts of freedom, the right to come and go at will, the right to practice any religion, (not just Muslim) the right to speak up about anything without being afraid of execution for doing so, the knowledge that they won't be arrested and executed by a dictatorial regime for being different, the right of women to be independent if that is their choice, then in my opinion, completely taking over their country until such time as that is accomplished is worth it. If you go back in history you will find many African countries were better off under British rule than they now are. I think about twenty years would accomplish the goal I suggest. If we don't do that, we really should bring our troops home right now and let the terrorists (or patriots) have their way about things because that is what will happen anyhow. As long as Islam rules instead of serves, it will be that way.
But isn't that war only about managing America's oil interests?
(US Marines know it - check out the book 'Jarhead' by Anthony Swofford.)
Isn't it a joke that it's about liberating those poor oppressed Iraqi civilians?
If what you say is true, should it only be a matter of time before the US invades North Korea and liberates them?
Oh, and then there is Zimbabwe.
I've read the comment about the Iraqi war being about oil before and some Army and Marine personell seem to think so.
I believe it has a lot to do with the control of oil, but more involved than just oil. We don't get much oil from Iraq.
I think part was finishing a job that dad(Bush Sr.) started. Part was getting rid of a serious threat to us and it's also not wanting to back off and leave.
No, the Iraq war isn't about oil. You need to do some research. This started when Iraq invaded Kuwait and headed for Arabia in the first gulf war. That was about oil, among other things.Kuwait and Arabia asked for our assistance and we gave it. When we stopped Saddam, we came home. At that time, saddam agreed to certain things as part of the agreement to stop fighting. For years Saddam violated the agreement and continued to kill people and, since the UN wouldn't act, we did.
This is all a matter of record. I think you know that.
Sounds like you have a little attitude. Don't forget, Australia was in on it, too. Still is.
The US could go in anytime it wants to and take them all out and own the oil if that was what it's all about.
My personal opinion is, let all those people kill each other off. They don't mean anything to me, except for Israel.
By the way, Jarhead, is just a book. It reflects the authors opinion and is slanted whichever way he wants it to be. Talk to those soldiers, the real ones, yourself before you let it get to you.
No offense intended.
No offense intended from me, either. It was late, and possibly after one too many beers.
Well here's my opinion even though I know you didn't ask for it.
Of course we should not pull our troops out now.
I don't think we need more troops in there. We are reaching our goal of training the Iraqi to secure their own country and they aren't doing too badly. More of our guys means more targets for those bastard terrorists.
We don't want to do the British Empire thing. The Brits did a lot of good bringing the meaning of law and order to - say - India for example. All they got was a bunch of grief and ended up with a big fight and giving it up anyway.
The Iraqi are well educated and although probably a bit shell shocked by decades of Saddam and then the liberation of their country but they are stepping up to the plate big time.
Please check out this Iraqi blog - if you do nothing else.
Iraq the Model.
If you haven't visited them yet - do so. It will renew your faith in Operation Iraqi Freedom.
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